Office of the High Sheriff of Powys
I would be most grateful if you could advise on coats of arms of the High Sheriffs of Brecon and later of Powys. In particular, High Sheriffs from the Morgan Awbrey Family (listed below). In addition to this list, Morgan Watkin Morgan was High Sheriff of Brecon in 1917, and Alfred Howell Morgan was High Sheriff of Brecon in 1931. In particular I would like to ask the following questions.
1) Is each new High Sheriff automatically awarded individual arms by the College of Arms? If so, each would be granted letters patent with Seals of the Heralds attached to them.
2) If not, I assume that the Office of the High Sheriff of Powys has its own coat of arms.
The Office of High Sheriff is a distinguished one, so each one of them could petition for arms, and if they did, they would have received letters patent from the College of Arms . This is hand scribed on vellum, and is delivered in a red case with seals of the Heralds outside the case. Do you have a complete record of the High Sheriffs of Brecon and Powys, and of all the letters patent granted? I am advised by the Windsor Herald that an Armiger is considered to be an eminent person, and High Sheriffs are eminent persons. Anyone can petition for arms. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries the Office of High Sheriff of Brecon was dominated by an extended family, descendants of Norman Knights that accompanied Bernard de Neufmarche, many being descendants of the Princes of Wales by marriage.
Diolch yn fawr
Dr. Myron Evans, Civil List Pensioner 2005, Armiger 2008, Member of the Gentry (“Burke’s Peerage and gentry” 2012), D. Sc., Ph. D., B. Sc. (Wales)
Research on Coats of Arms
Many thanks for this advice and best wishes for a fruitful retirement! I will ask the National Library to take on this task, which is highly non trivial as we say in theoretical physics. The Library has already archived all the genealogy on www.aias.us on www.webarchive.org.uk . It is also archived on the Wayback Machine, www.archive.org. What I have in mind is a display of the lawful coats of arms of collected ancestors on www.aias.us and www.upitec.org. My cousin Stuart Davies may be visiting the NLW soon, or I could ask the Library for its fees. Sometimes, my scientific colleagues visit the NLW. Our own genealogists are very good at research of this kind.
In a message dated 10/03/2017 18:47:09 GMT Standard Time, writes:
Dear Professor Evans,
Thank you for your e-mail.
I am going to have to pass this to someone else as I had to resign on reaching 70 last December. I am being allowed to stay on till May to wind things down, but I regret that cannot take on a task of this magnitude.
Nothing here is computerised, so there is no on-line index. Whoever takes this on will obviously need to be paid to undertake the research. To be perfectly honest, I think you would be better off having all but the modern research done at the National Library of Wales. Some of the information you can probably find yourself in The Development of Welsh Heraldry, an excellent set of books by M P Siddons, former Wales Herald Extraordinary, published by the National Library of Wales.
If you approach the Library first – they will probably be cheaper and have more information than we do – then come back to me (I am retaining my e-mail address, as I have never used a College one), I will see who can estimate for the work here.
William Hunt, Windsor
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 2:45 PM
Subject: Coats of Arms
College of Arms,
Dear Major Hunt,
Can the College of Arms advise on how many coats of arms have been awarded in the attached direct line back to the point at which coats of arms were first defined? Is there an online index of coats of arms available from the College of Arms or some other reliable source? I know that several of the Aubrey, Portrey and Gough families of Ynys Cedwyn were High Sheriffs of Brecon, so would be entitled to a coat of arms assuming that they petitioned for arms. In the extended family there many coats of arms because it is such an ancient family. For example in the extended Aubrey Family the following were High Sheriffs of Brecon all entitled to arms provided they petitioned for arms:
1) Dr William Aubrey Cantref, 1545.
2) John Aubrey Abercynrig 1572.
3) Sir Edward Aubrey Tredomen 1583 and 1589.
4) Morgan Aubrey Ynys Cedwyn 1616.
5) Richard Portrey Ynys Cedwyn 1727.
6) Richard Gough Aubrey Ynys Cedwyn 1800.
7) Richard Aubrey Gough of Ynys Cedwyn, 1840.
8) Fleming Richard Dansey Aubrey Gough Ynys Cedwyn 1895.
Additionally Rice Davies Powell Craig y Nos was High Sheriff in 1847, but apparently did not petition for arms although the office gave him entitlement to Arms. Morgan Morgan of Craig y Nos was High Constable of Brecon. Would this office have entitled him to arms? Finally Lord Tudor Watkins became a Life Peer entitled to arms, but apparently did not petition for arms. I attach a few genealogies. There is a collection of genealogies on www.aias.us compiled with the help of many fine scholars, notably: Stuart Davies, Dewi Lewis, Arthur Turner-Thomas, Vivienne Swaby, Clement Bartrum and many other sources.
Thank you in anticipation