Diolch yn fawr i chi, da iawn i glywed wrthoch! Thank you very much, very good to hear from you.
I think it would be an excellent thing to start a Welsh speaking University in Wisconsin, one in which all staff and students are fluent in Welsh and in which all teaching is done in Welsh. It could be coordinated with the National Eisteddfod in Wales. UNESCO has warned urgently on the extinction of the Welsh language due to uncontrolled monoglot immigration into Wales that destroys the language. The great American architect Frank Lloyd Wright was a Lloyd-Jones of Wisconsin on his mother’s side. This group is made up of cousins of various kinds, and some other friends. In the appendix of the opening chapter of my autobiography I give all the relevant genealogy, also found in all detail on www.aias.us. The autobiography is found in the blue box above my coat of arms on the home page of www.aias.us. One of my cousins on my father’s side, Stuart Davies, is an excellent genealogist. To find out more about William Jones Craig Cefn Parc and Rachel Morris Ystrad Gynlais the easiest way is to use www.ancestry.com. If you know which year they were married, and where they lived, you can use the Census records to find their children. There are also birth, marriage and death certificates. If you can kindly inform me when and where they were married I will have a look at Ancestry to see if they had more than one child. I am a US Dual citizen naturalized at Cornell in 2000, but I do not think that anyone else from my immediate family emigrated. On my father’s side I am descended in a Royal Celtic Line from Tewdwr Mawr, and on my mother’s side from a Havard line that in all probability goes back to Sir Walter Havard of Norman and Norse origin. I was born in this house in Craig Cefn Parc and never spoke any English in the family. My immediate family here were my parents and maternal grandparents. They were all coal miners and farmers. In my direct Evans line they were hard working labourers back to Edward Evans Llanigon, Powys. So my homely lines are Evans and Jones. I never knew my paternal grandparents but they have a very distinguished lineage, back through the Ynys Cedwyn gentry of Ystrad Gynlais to the fourth century A. D. In the Newlands Line I am descended from Mac Donald Clan na Chatan and Clan Mac an Taoiseach through Clan Mac Tomaidh, and also of course from Clan Newlands of Norse origin.
Diolch yn fawr, Myron!
Do you have any information about William Jones and Rachel Morris’ union and if they had any other children besides Gwilym? There is family lore that Gwilym had a brother who also came to the United States and was a famous senator or governor in the western states, but I haven’t been able to find time to research this. If you have any clues, please let me know!
I see that you copied your e-mail and my thread to others, so I am assuming there are other descendants of Thomas Jones and Mary Hopkin out there. Are any of them in the United States?
You are right – I am in Cedarburg, Wisconsin, about 17 miles north of Milwaukee, and about 90 miles north of Chicago. We are originally from the Chicago area and moved here about 20 years ago. I am very much connected to the Welsh community both in the Chicago and the Milwaukee areas. My father is half Welsh (and a Jones) and his roots go back via Liverpool to Corris (Machynlleth). My mother was Gwilym’s youngest daughter. She passed away three years ago.
As I mentioned, we are close to our Welsh roots. Our son, who is finishing his last year of college, is a linguist and has attended Cwrs Cymraeg (North American Welsh Course) for the last five years. He is quite good at Welsh, more in the structure of the language (mutations!) and less so in conversation. In the summer of 2010, Cwrs was held in Cardiff and, because of the level (5) he was in, he was able to study with the Wlpan group at the Welsh Adult Learning Center at University of Cardiff. I met him at the end of the week, rented a car and we drove around Wales for a week. What an adventure!
To fill you in on Gwilym’s family. He was born in Ystradgynlais and married Mary Williams from Cwmaman (Aberdare) and they lived in Ystradgynlais. He was a miner and a baritone of some note and won the National Eisteddfod in 1916 and 1918 (not sure what category, though). Dr. Daniel Protheroe (also from Ystradgynlais) encouraged him to tour and come to the United States where he settled in Chicago. He and Mary had six children who survived to old age. Gwilym emigrated in the late 1920s with his two sons, and his wife and four daughters came in the early 1930s. He could not find work as a soloist and worked as a machinist until his death in the 1940s.
All this information is so interesting! I have been researching my father’s Jones side because he is still alive and has been enjoying my discoveries. As I said, his paternal roots go back to Corris and his maternal roots go back to Cornwall. Without visiting the UK or investing a lot of time into the search for his relatives, I have found out as much as I can for the time being. So I thought I would try my maternal Jones side.
I look forward to hearing from you again. We are currently moving my father into a retirement apartment, so if I run across any more information about the William and Gwilym connection in his collection of “stuff,” I’ll be glad to send it along.
I will be in touch!
Subject: Jones Genealogy Research
Very nice to hear from you, cousin! I assume you are in Wisconsin in the United States. Frank Lloyd Wright’s family on his mother’s side were the Lloyd-Jones Family of Wisconsin (probably unrelated). My great grandfather Tommy Thomas Jones was your great grandfather’s younger brother. So your great great grandfather and mine was Tomos Jones Llanbedr (Thomas Jones Lampeter), born 1826, who married Mary Hopkin Craig Cefn Parc, born 1836, our great great grandmother. I have just published volume one of my autobiography (www.authorsonline.co.uk), “O Hudd ei Ddoe”; the preprint is in the blue box on the home page of www.aias.us and Tommy Thomas Jones is mentioned there – all of what I know. In order to find out more about your great grandfather, William Jones, his birth, marriage and death certificates are extant, and also Censi records (Census of 1831, 1841, 1851, 1861, etc.). The Censi are all online in www.ancestry.com. The Hopkin Family is among the oldest of RhyndwyClydach, going back to Tudor times. I descend in three known ways from the Hopkin Family, Mary Hopkin, William Hopkin Cwm Nant y Moel, and Daniel Hopkin Fagwr. To go further back than Tomos Jones Llanbedr the parochial and other records are needed because there are no Census records. Good genealogists can go back further than the Census, but parochial records are often inaccurate and incomplete. There are wills, quit deeds, bonds, conveyancing and so on but records for the poorer people are difficult to find, especially as they were often illiterate adn owned no land. However, some were eloquent and intelligent, and there is always the possibility that a record may be found.
In a message dated 29/09/2012 00:01:21 GMT Daylight Time, writes:
Hello Dr. Evans – I am doing some genealogical research and wanted to find out if we might have a connection. I have copied a portion of one of your entries below, and wanted to know if you have any more information on the William Jones, born circa 1859.
My great-grandfather’s name is William Jones. From the family records I have, he was born in Craig-Cefn-Parc, South Wales and married Rachel Morris from Ystradgynlais. I only have record of one child, my grandfather Gwilym Jones born 21 November, 1884. I have been told that there were other children but at this point in my research I haven’t found them.
If any of this sounds familiar, and if you have any further information about William, I would be delighted to hear from you.
Janis Jones Batty
Lineage of Jones: THOMAS JONES, born 1826, married Mary Hopkin (born 1836), and had issue,
1a John JONES, born circa 1855.
2a William JONES, born circa 1859.
3a Ruth JONES, born 1866.
4a THOMAS T. JONES, see below.
5a Margaret JONES, born 1870.
6a Daniel JONES, born 1872.
7a Mary JONES, born 1875.